[House] San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion forum digest - 1/5/2013
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San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 1/4/2013
10:14 am - 1/5/2013
1. Having to leave babies in NICU...how do I cope? (elizabethb74)
2. Re: Trust. Nanny and Kids watching TV (anonymous)
3. Comment: Re: Trust. Nanny and Kids watching TV (eeewww)
4. Comment: flying with twins.yikes! need advice (linoleum)
5. RE: [sfpom_general] flying with twins.yikes! need... (VickiZettler)
6. Comment: flying with twins.yikes! need advice (vbaloghrosenthal)
7. Comment: Moving one twin to Kaiser while the other... (karu_garg)
8. Comment: Moving one twin to Kaiser while the other...
(twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
9. Comment: Moving one twin to Kaiser while the other... (noursej)
10. Comment: Looking for Full Time Nanny for Feburary... (bhavna12)
11. Comment: Looking for Full Time Nanny for Feburary... (noursej)
1. Having to leave babies in NICU...how do I cope?
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elizabethb74 - 1/4/2013 6:40 pm
I gave birth to 2 sweet babies on Jan. 1, at 32 weeks.
We were obviously hoping to have the babies close to
full term but we knew that our little boy was
struggling a little bit and that a earlier delivery was
probably inevitable.Now I'm in the hospital for the
last night and while the hospital (UCSF) is trying to
accommodate me for some extra nights here to be near
them my heart is breaking that I will have to leave
them here at some point. They will probably be here
another 4-6 weeks and I can't imagine how I will cope
with this. Of course my postpartum is playing a huge
roll in my emotions but that doesn't help come to terms
with having to leave them. Any advice would be
appreciated.
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2. Re: Trust. Nanny and Kids watching TV
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anonymous - 1/4/2013 9:48 am
Have you thought about removing the TV from your home.
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3. eeewww says...
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1/4/2013 4:16 pm
I don't think you should have to remove a TV from your
house to prevent a nanny from watching TV with your
kids, if that is what this is about. If I can't trust
my nanny to follow my rules, I don't want her watching
my kids. That's like removing any alcohol in the house
so the nanny doesn't drink while watching the kids.
Well maybe not quite like that, but kind of similar. I
happen to be pretty lax though, so my rules are easy.
My nanny watches TV with my kids all the time. I trust
her to make good decisions about when it is an
appropriate time. And she does. She let's them watch TV
when my daughter wakes up early from a nap and still
needs to rest, or when she has to do a bunch of chores,
or something like that. But she doesn't just turn on
the TV because they ask. She limits the TV to an
appropriate amount. I trust that she is invested in
their development just as I am and does not want them
sitting in front of the TV all day.
Email author: bugjarbabe at yahoo.com
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Topic: flying with twins.yikes! need advice
Happy New Year Everyone!
My husband and I have decided to take a trip to the
east...
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4. linoleum says...
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1/4/2013 6:46 am
My twins just turned 3.5yr. I would recommend bringing
one car seat and getting one seat extra so you can
strap one in and even nap if she will go down (not sure
if your flight coincides with their naps) If they are
used to Ergo, you can sit with one of them in your
Ergo, even though I won't be comfortable for you but
let's face it, traveling with twins is tough work.
Looking back, we regret not traveling with our twins
much under one, that is actually the easiest time to
travel when they don't move much yet and can sleep
more. Once they start to walk (between 12 months to 2
yrs) you just have to be real charming to those around
you because my twins will not sit down anywhere. Once
they are slightly older and can get interested in you
reading to them, a little coloring, a little snacking,
a little screen time, things will be much easier. Bring
post-its, great to stick on anything and easily
removed, wrap little old or new toy and let them
unwrap. I see flight time as like some adults going to
Vegas, they get treats they don't normally get, so they
will not scream to much ;)The more you travel, the
better they get. We made a trip to Asia when they were
2.75, flight was around 20 hr with one stop over, it
was hellish but we survived. After that, any flight
seems easy, especially now that they are potty trained.
It does get easier, hang in there. I will recommend
straight flight, get there as quick as you can. Good
Luck.
Email author: sfnyclin at yahoo.com
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5. VickiZettler says...
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1/4/2013 9:37 am
See if you can try to think of the flights as just one
part of your trip, it can feel daunting, but it's only
a part of it and the rewards will be great! If you can
afford a 3rd seat between you, that's a great way to
go. You can bring a car seat or not. The travel
harnesses are for older/larger sized kids. At one
point the club loaned out little carts that you strap a
car seat to, put one child in and roll them thru the
airport, then you can hold the other child. I'm a fan
of direct only...just get it over with (because I
figure nothing is going to be any more fun in an
airport somewhere over being on a flight.) All of the
other suggestions are great, toys, snacks, borrow a DVD
player if they like that or a laptop. We were told to
bring the flight attendants fave snack of red licorice
(they are non-fat and low sugar.) Just give them a bag
and say we've got these 2 munchkins and wanted to give
you something in advance...just in case. Some people
bring things for those around them as well...We had to
use benedryl on a couple of flights to keep one or both
of their ears unplugged (due to colds etc.), which made
them a little drowsy as well-they come in chewable
pills that you could maybe grind up and put in a drink
if you needed them. It seems like it can go both
ways-either they mellow out and nap due to the sounds
etc. or they get rowdy...just have things for yourself
(like an extra shirt in case of accidents), snacks,
extra clothes for them, toys, books. We started
bringing a really beaten up cheap double stroller with
us (bought it used for like $30). I think it was
called an umbrella stroller. We'd wheel them to the
security check, each take one child, that stroller was
easy to fold up and put on the belt, then strap them
right back in after security. You can then roll them
right to the entrance to the plane (make sure at check
in you say you'll be gate-stowing a stroller below and
get a tag on it at the gate), then you just leave the
stroller at the door of the plane with one of the
workers there and it should be waiting for you there at
your destination. Good luck on your adventure!!!!
Vicki-----Original Message-----From:
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[mailto:sender at lists.bigtent.com] On Behalf Of jennifer
pSent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:29 PMTo: 'San
Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General
Discussion'Subject: [sfpom_general] flying with
twins.yikes! need advice - Ref#75052853jennifer p
posted:Happy New Year Everyone!My husband and I have
decided to take a trip to the east coast to visit
family in February. My twins are just now 13 months
old.I guess my question is, how does this work
exactly?!I cannot fathom the girls staying on our laps
for more than 5 minutes at a time. They are total
squirmers. Do I get some kind of travel harness to
strap them to our bodies?I figure we will be up and
down the aisles several times... but are there any
tricks to flying a long flight with twins? Do we take a
direct flight? Or is it better to break it up?Do we
check both car seats, or buy an extra seat to hold one
car seat just in case one of the girls will sit still
for five minutes (don't really want to spend the extra
$$)Then once we get to our destination what is the
necessity list?2 pack n plays for sleeping in2 high
chairs2 car seats (do we need car seat covers to check
them at the airport? How does this work?) Do we use our
own car seats in a taxi to the airport?HELP!I am a
nervous flyer anyway, and this is making the trip
slightly more stressful!Thanks for any and all your
words of wisdom!!~JenniferAdd your comments online:
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6. vbaloghrosenthal says...
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1/4/2013 6:56 pm
Now that I have opinionated 14 year olds, I am thrilled
that we traveled so much with our kids under the age of
3 (including four international trips). Surprisingly,
my kids always did well on planes, but we always bought
a seat for each of them and brought their car seats on
board. We used a double MacLaren stroller to get them
around the airport and then gate checked it so it was
waiting for us at the next stop. The one time we did
not buy them seats, I had a screaming kid on my lap for
a couple of miserable hours. We never brought high
chairs, choosing to feed them in the double stroller.
Best of luck,Virginia Balogh-Rosenthal
Email author: vbaloghrosenthal at comcast.net
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Topic: Moving one twin to Kaiser while the other is at
UCSF??
Happy New Year to you all! I posted around 2 weeks ago
about balancing time between...
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7. karu_garg says...
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1/4/2013 11:07 am
So happy (and relieved) for you. Happy New Year and
good luck with everything!
Email author: karu_garg at hotmail.com
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8. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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1/4/2013 2:16 pm
very relieved for you, Zs! I would also echo what
these other ladies have chimed in on BF-ing. My boys
were born via a surrogate and were exclusively formula
fed. They are perfect little men now. Both hubby and
I were also EFF and we are smart, well adjusted, tax
paying citizens. It it not the end of the world if the
BF-ing does not fall into place. Give yourself some
time to heal and try to remain "in a good place." The
docs at UCSF NICU are wonderful.
Email author: regina_eberhart at yahoo.com
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9. noursej says...
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1/4/2013 2:54 pm
another thing that might help regarding bfing...you
have time...get your milk to come in now - to establish
your supply...then take your time with bfing (while
either bottle feeding with bmilk or by supplementing
with formula). you have time to develop the bfing
relationship...until the kids' teeth come in...then it
gets a little tricky! :)also, it's helpful to remember
that bfing is 4x more effective than pumping, so if
you're pumping 1oz, the kiddos are probably suckling
4oz, which is great for newborns. which is to say...if
they seem satisfied, they probably are. pumping isn't
always a great indicator of how much you're really
producing... hth. best, jen
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Topic: Looking for Full Time Nanny for Feburary Babies
If you know a great nanny or can recommend a good way to
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10. bhavna12 says...
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1/4/2013 8:31 am
just to add based on my experience with nanny. our
current full-time nanny is $22/hr (we also pay for her
muni monthly bus pass every month, $60/month). we had
to be a bit competitive with our rate and provide her
the bus pass since she had multiple offers and had to
commute a bit more to get to our place in the city. She
does everything for the kids and even cleans up our
place a bit. makes it tidy. not a deep clean. we keep
that for the maid. we want her to focus on kids. some
of her responsibilities include: giving kids bath,
reading, walks, keeping them on feed/nap schedule,
interacting with them, making bottles and food when
time comes, sterilize, come to drs if need be, etc. I'm
sure she does a lot more but can't think of all her
responsibilities at the moment.We gave her a 2 year
contract with some termination clauses if need be. It
ended up being 10 pages but we were very comprehensive
with her responsibilities. household duties and
childcare.My advice would be to listen to your gut,
especially when it comes to care for your kids. In
addition, doing a trial for a day makes sense as well
so you get a sense of her personality and how the kids
are with her.
Email author: bhavna at gmail.com
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11. noursej says...
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1/4/2013 2:45 pm
try this link to some forms, instead:
http://newmomnetwork.com/index_files/Resources.htm
Email author: noursejlm at gmail.com
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