San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 11/12/2012 10:14 am - 11/12/2012
1. Loving nanny looking for full time position (melissa_farris)
2. Invitation & RSVP: Mom's Night Out (MNO) (sfsharona)
3. Looking for FT day nanny help - going back to work 1/2/... (bhavna12)
4. Comment: Looking for FT day nanny help - going... (melissa_farris)
5. First day home alone with the twins (lborkow)
6. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (jeccat)
7. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (lborkow)
8. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (jeccat)
9. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (lborkow)
10. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (bhavna12)
11. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (Laudan)
12. Comment: First day home alone with the twins (kaluzoo)
13. Potty training boys advice? (pccp22)
14. Comment: Potty training boys advice? (HollyBuchanan)
15. Fun things for 1-2 yrs in LA/OC? (twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
16. Holding pee several hours while potty training (HollyBuchanan)
17. Travel to east coast with twins (zarate)
18. Comment: Travel to east coast with twins (HollyBuchanan)
19. Comment: Travel to east coast with twins (bhavna12)
20. When do newborns start to consolidate naps from... (jeccat)
21. Comment: pumping and bottle feeding (MamaWobin)
22. Comment: Have you used the Sleep Easy Solution... (lizzie01)
23. Comment: Have you used the Sleep Easy Solution... (RachelHK)
24. Comment: When do babies outgrow "the witching hour"? (Brian_C)
25. Comment: When do babies outgrow "the witching hour"? (jeccat)
1. Loving nanny looking for full time position
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melissa_farris - 11/12/2012 6:45 pm
My name is Melissa Farris - 415-850-5087My Nannys name:
Irany Perez - 415-571-1961She has been with us for 16
months.Irany just told me today that she is looking for
a full time job because the mom that she works for now
has decided to stay home. She currently works for us in
the evenings. Because of her, I get to go to the gym,
have some a lone time, etc. I have 16 month old twins
and a 4 year old daughter and they all love her. I used
to just have her watch the twins but now she watches
all three and she really is amazing. She is so loving
and kind and my girls run to the door when they know
she is coming. My hours with her are flexible so if you
need her later, she just calls me and adjusts her time
with me. Thats OK with me because I know I'm her extra
job and frankly I'm just lucky to have her. I'm happy
to answer any questions you might have. I am confident
that you will love her too.
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2. Invitation & RSVP: Mom's Night Out (MNO)
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sfsharona - 11/12/2012 5:14 pm
Happy Holidays! The next MNO event will be held at my
home. In honor of the holidays, we're having a holiday
cookie/sweet/recipe swap. Wine and appetizers will
also be provided. How does this work you ask? Please
bring 2 dozen of your favorite holiday cookies or
sweets to share. In addition, bring copies of the
recipe so others can take a copy if they'd like. Bring
an empty container so you have something to take home
new cookies/treats in. We'll all get to sample some
yummy treats and go home with a variety of goodies!If
you just don't have time to bake, prepare the dough and
we can either bake it my oven (bring cookie sheets) or
send people home with the dough to bake in their own
ovens! RSVP: Please by 12/2/12.PS: My twins will be
sleeping so when you arrive, please don't ring the
doorbell - just come in the main door downstairs and
knock when you get to apt 4. Many thanks!!I look
forward to seeing all Mommies!Event Details &
RSVP---------------------- What: Mom's Night Out
(MNO) Who: San Francisco Parents of Multiples
When: Thu Dec 6, 2012, 7-9 pm PST Where: Sharon's
House 130 Palm Ave #4, SF 94118 RSVP:
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3. Looking for FT day nanny help - going back to work 1/2/13
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bhavna12 - 11/12/2012 3:42 pm
Can anybody refer me to a good day nanny. We have gone
through many interviews and finally found one but she's
only available PT and working with us right now. I need
someone FT starting beginning of year (open to
providing a long term contract) as I'm going back to
work. I'm on care.com and have been getting referrals
from friends but difficult to find someone with twins
experience, caring, understanding, open communication,
and just has a loving nature. Please help. I'm starting
to really lose it and getting nervous as I head back to
work in 6 weeks. Thank you all. This community has been
a life saver in so many ways.
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4. melissa_farris says...
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11/12/2012 6:17 pm
My very loving, wonderful nanny just told me that she
is looking for a FT job. Her daytime family (she works
for me in the evenings) just told her the mom is going
to quit working so they don't need her. She has been
with us since my twins were born - they are 16 months.
I also have a 4 year old. She handles them with ease
and I love her so I can go to the gym, get some a lone
time, etc at night. My hours with her are flexible so
if you need her later in the day on some days that she
just adjusts her schedule with me. I don't mind as I
know I'm just the "extra" job. My girls really love her
and I do too. I'm happy to answer any questions you
may have. Her name is Irany Perez - 415-571-1961 or you
can call me. Melissa Farris 415-850-5087. Good Luck!
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5. First day home alone with the twins
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lborkow - 11/12/2012 12:36 pm
It's my first day home alone with my b/g twins (they
will be 8 weeks tomorrow) and I just wanted to reach
out for some support. So far we have all (including
myself) had at least one breakdown. They wanted to
feed at the exact same time, so I put them both in
their boppies, gave them each their bottle and hoped
for the best. It actually did work, but I am still
very nervous about being home alone with them all day
long.
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6. jeccat says...
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11/12/2012 12:59 pm
Oh, it gets a lot better around four weeks from now.
Hang in there! Do you have lunch? Its important to eat
something even if one or both babies is screaming.
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7. lborkow says...
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11/12/2012 1:03 pm
Thanks! I sure hope it gets better. Everyone says to
enjoy this, but so far the crying isn't so enjoyable.
My husband just came home and brought me lunch, so I
got to eat it today. :)
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8. jeccat says...
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11/12/2012 1:39 pm
I NEVER let a home alone day start without something I
can grab and eat sitting somewhere accessible. And
"enjoying" is a very subjective concept-- I enjoyed
watching my babies have their first smiles, and I enjoy
watching them wiggle when I sing to them (note my
babies are ~4 months and can now do some stuff). But I
also enjoy the odd nap they magically take at the same
time, and I am also enjoying fantasizing about
returning to work next month, when I will be able to
sit in a comfy chair for more than ten minutes, and go
through a whole day without spit up in my hair!
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9. lborkow says...
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11/12/2012 2:04 pm
Yes, I didn't think I would look forward to returning
to work! Right now they are sleeping at the same time
:)
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10. bhavna12 says...
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11/12/2012 3:37 pm
hang in there and the SFPOM community is here for you.
I've been fortunate to have 1 person with me since the
beginning but that will soon end. My twins are 9.5
weeks now and it's a joy but A LOT of work, and a range
of emotions. It's always nice to get outside as well,
bundle them up and get them some fresh air. :)
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11. Laudan says...
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11/12/2012 9:11 pm
Just want to say congrats -- you did it! I remember
the anxiety I had the first day I spent alone with my
twins almost 2 years ago. For what it's worth, the day
before I first did it, a friend said that she was never
alone with her twins until they were 8 years old -- and
I don't think she was kidding! PPs have good advice --
making sure you get a chance to eat is key and I found
that getting outside for a walk, if possible, was worth
all the effort. For food, my husband used to stock the
closet in my twins' room with an assortment of energy
bars for those times when I was in desperate need of
something within arm's reach and couldn't run to the
kitchen.I hope you feel a sense of accomplishment and
hang in there -- it does get easier as they get a
little older.
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12. kaluzoo says...
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11/12/2012 9:31 pm
Congratulations!! You survived the hardest part - and
it really does only get better from there (well, at
least up until seven months - I have no experience
after that).It sounds crazy but I now actually do enjoy
being with my boys alone when I stay home from work.
But man, the beginning is just stressful. Definitely
make sure you have a well stocked snacks department -
including perhaps some chocolate - and that hubby is
bringing you home some wine :). I have never been a TV
watcher, but I plowed through Downton Abbey and Smash
in those early days home alone with them - turning off
my mind while they napped was about all I could handle.
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13. Potty training boys advice?
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pccp22 - 11/12/2012 10:57 am
We are potty training our two boys who will be 3 in
January. We have been using the small Bjorn potties as
well as the regular toilet with a step up. The boy who
is farther along likes to pee in the little potty,
which ends up all over the floor because of the design
of the potty, which then causes the other boy to spray
all over the bathroom in solidarity. Then I freak out,
making it a very fun experience for them, and an
unhappy one for me. I am nervous about taking the
little ones away because one of my boys is doing great
with pooping in the little one. How have other people
dealt with transitioning to the big potty to pee and
eventually poop? Do kids climb up and sit on an insert
or just learn to balance by themselves? Should I expect
a regression as we take away the little one? Any
tips/advice welcome. Thanks! PatriciaMom to Sam and Ben
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14. HollyBuchanan says...
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11/12/2012 11:12 am
We're using the high back baby bjorn potty and not
having that issue with our boy. Could you switch
rather unnoticeably to this style bjorn potty of the
same color?
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15. Fun things for 1-2 yrs in LA/OC?
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twin_boys_on_twinpeaks - 11/12/2012 10:25 am
Heading down to LA with the twins (21 months old) for
Thanksgiving. My sister wants us all to go out one
day.She lives in Diamond Bar on the edge of LA,
Riverside and Orange counties, so the LA Zoo is a bit
of a haul but is the santa ana zoo OK? or what about
the discovery museum--are my boys too young? They like
the cal academy and the discovery museum and the zoo
here and GGP and the carousal. What do you
think?http://www.discoverycube.org/http://www.santaanazoo.org/http://www.lazoo.org/http://www.arboretum.org/
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16. Holding pee several hours while potty training
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HollyBuchanan - 11/12/2012 10:16 am
I'm potty training my b/g twins who are 2yrs, 9mos and
more than ready for this. We are on day 3 of a 3-day
naked spree, and tomorrow they go back to daycare -
without diapers I'm hoping. My son is an instant pro,
and has had zero accidents. My daughter is clearly
holding her pee for hours and hours - like 4-5 hours!
I can get her to sit on the potty from time to time,
but nothing happens and she says she doesn't have to
go. I can't tell if she's holding it out of stress and
fear, or if she really doesn't have to go for several
hours. Has anyone ever had a child who naturally held
it this long? Yesterday she only went twice, once on
the potty and once in an accident. I've tried
everything: loading her up on tons of liquids and
salty snacks, bribes with special snacks she loves and
never gets to have, watching DVDs (which we never do
otherwise), hand in warm water, naked vs. not naked,
sound machine on rain, star chart, high praise when it
happens, love, hugs, encouragement - I honestly can't
think of anything else to do. She waits until her
bladder is completely full and she can't take it any
longer. We are doing diapers for naps and bedtime, she
could be trying to make it until she has a diaper on.
Please help with any suggestions that worked for you.
I don't have the strength to revert to diapers and have
to face starting from scratch again! Thanks Moms!!
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17. Travel to east coast with twins
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zarate - 11/12/2012 9:41 am
Hi parents,In January we'll travel to Boston and NY for
12 days and I'd love to tap into your collective wisdom
for what to pack, both in terms of clothing and
gear.Our twins will be 6 months old (19 weeks
adjusted). We'll take our fantastic night nurse with
us, who will be helping with the twins 12 hours per
day. What do we need to buy or borrow for the cold
weather? If you've flown with babies that age, did you
take your twin stroller or got separate umbrella
strollers? How do we best manage the babies in the
flight-- did you get seats and use the car seats, or do
lap travel?Any help will be appreciated!Alessandra
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18. HollyBuchanan says...
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11/12/2012 10:56 am
For cold weather, I recommend full body fleece bunting
suits. For the strollers and car seats, BundleMe
fleece bags are great. As for whether to buy seats or
not, that is up to whether or not you care to spend the
money. You can definitely lap baby them if you have
two adults.
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19. bhavna12 says...
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11/12/2012 11:47 am
we are traveling to chicago in December and I was
curious what the group thought about checking in
strollers/car seats? Is there a cost for this? We are
flying Southwest and they allow for 2 free check-in
bags. Also, can stroller be a carry on so we don't have
to carry both in the car seats or hand to the gate?
It's very overwhelming on what to take when traveling.
:)Thanks in advanceBhavna
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20. When do newborns start to consolidate naps from 3+ to fewer?
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jeccat - 11/12/2012 7:58 am
Hi moms-- my twins will be four months old next week
and for the past couple of months they have been taking
3 or 4 short (45 min) naps per day. They are eating
every three hours during the day so the naps would
happen within 1.5 hrs after each feed. Recently
however they have been sleeping longer at the mid-day
nap, maybe from 11:30 to 1:30, then maybe skipping the
remaining afternoon nap(s). Coincidentally (?),
yesterday they both had a long mid-day nap and an extra
afternoon nap, and then one twin took two hours to get
to sleep and they were both up for a good 90 minutes
between 2:30 and 4 am, which is unusual for them and
unpleasant for me. My questions for you:1) when do
newborn naps consolidate to 2 naps per day?2) how did
this consolidation happen for you?3) should I
discourage them from sleeping in the afternoon if they
get a long mid-day nap, or is that just going to lead
to pissy babies at this point?Thanks!
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Topic: pumping and bottle feeding
just curious - does anyone pump and bottle feed? I have
been doing that and supplementing...
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21. MamaWobin says...
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11/12/2012 1:24 pm
Definitely don't feel bad! The babies are still getting
the nutrients and you can still bond with a bottle and
the best part is people can help you more with
feedings. I did a mix- breastfeeding twice a day and
bottle the rest. Also - a solution we found to the work
of cleaning all the pump parts and bottles was to just
buy a ton of them and only use the dishwasher. We
simply did our usual once a day dishwasher run with all
the parts on the top rack and had enough spare that we
still had enough clean at all times. Yes we had bins of
bottles and pump parts all over the place but really
only for a few months so it wasn't too bad. We were
able to give away most of them when were done so I
don't feel too bad about the amount of plastic waste
and it saved my sanity. The first couple weeks of hand
washing everything almost drove me crazy!
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Topic: Have you used the Sleep Easy Solution on twins?
We are going to sleep train our 4 month old twins next week.
We used the Sleep Easy...
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22. lizzie01 says...
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11/12/2012 3:07 am
We didn't sleep train per se as our twins ended up just
sleeping longer and longer stretches until they went
through the night so no advice on the sleep easy
solution...but regarding whether we kept the
together...we did. I figured they were going to be
sharing a room for the foreseeable future, so it made
sense to at least go that route first and see how it
went. I was actually more worried about my toddler
waking up to their cries than them waking up each
other. Anyway, it all worked out. Occasionally when
one cries the other stirs but they fall back asleep on
their own. I think they are used to each other by now.
And our toddler hasn't woken up so far. Agree with
Rachel HK to do what's right for you since you know
your babies best. But whatever you start doing, you
can always change it if it's not working.And by the
way, no reason to think the twins won't train as well
as your first. We thought that because we had such a
good sleeper in #1 that there was no way we'd escape
unscathed by having #2/3 do that as well. As it turned
out, the twins ended up sleeping through the night
earlier than #1. Go figure.
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23. RachelHK says...
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11/12/2012 7:44 am
Yes, I initially tried sleep training in the same room
(letting them cry for short intervals) and it failed
miserably. they would set each other off and escalate.
and, my daughter got the short end fo the stick as my
son would cry so hard that he puked, and we'd have to
go in there, turn on the light, disrupt the evening and
change him and the bedsheets.Due to my son's
trigger-happy esophagus, we quickly realized that CIO
did not work for him, so we wound up co-sleeping with
him for 1-2 months. We would put him to bed in his
crib at 8pm, and then the first time he woke up crying,
we would bring him to bed. ONce sound asleep, we would
transition him back to his crib to sleep on his own.
that was the magic bullet that worked for him. after a
month of two of that, he just stopped waking up -
perhaps because he was maturing, or felt more secure,
or because he was tired of sharing a bed and wanted his
own space - who knows. :-) As for my daughter, she
would fuss a bit but didn't need much formal sleep
training - once she was in her own room she basically
just started sleeping better.These days, each can sleep
through the other's cries without incident. Separating
them for several months to get them sleeping better had
no long term effects on whether they could sleep
through each other's noises AT ALL.
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Topic: When do babies outgrow "the witching hour"?
Hi moms-- my 3.5 mo twins are at their fussiest between 4:30
and their 6:30 pm bedtime...
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24. Brian_C says...
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11/12/2012 11:56 am
Our B/G twins just turned 4 weeks. They were born at
37 weeks. Both 100% BF and are gaining weight
normally. They are clam when awake, feed like champs,
and fall asleep quickly all morning and afternoon.
Between 5PM - 8PM the boy seems generally frustrated,
gassy and and cranks and cries unpredictably for a few
hours. Only rocking in your arms, walking around, and
100% focus on him seems to calm him down! He knows if
you're trying to watch TV, read, or do anything
else.Our girl then tags in and takes over the cranking
and crying from about 8pm until 11pm. However she
tends to be fine while feeding and doesn't seem as
frustrated. They want to eat every 3 hours like
clockwork. Fortunately things go pretty smoothly 80%
of the time from midnight to 6AM...but 6PM-Midnight is
the toughest time of the day for us.We know this is
pretty typical but it sure is busy in the
evenings!Brian
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25. jeccat says...
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11/12/2012 1:01 pm
Update: I think last week was the last gasp of the
evening crazies, as there hasn't been more than 20
minutes every night this week. Whew! I guess 3.5 months
was the magic age for us-- it's like they turned off a
switch!
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