San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 1/24/2013 10:15 am - 1/25/2013
1. Car seat position question (trandmp)
2. switching from formula to cow's milk (karu_garg)
3. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk (twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
4. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk (karu_garg)
5. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk (mamapod)
6. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk (twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
7. exclusively pumping, anyone else? (rosisu)
8. Comment: exclusively pumping, anyone else? (leslieb_sf)
9. Comment: exclusively pumping, anyone else? (rachelaward535)
10. Comment: exclusively pumping, anyone else? (karu_garg)
11. Comment: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser... (kaluzoo)
12. Comment: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser... (leslieb_sf)
13. Comment: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser... (karu_garg)
1. Car seat position question
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trandmp - 1/24/2013 4:14 pm
I have 2 year old twins who are in forward facing car
seats and am due with another baby in 2 weeks. For
those of you who have 2 forward facing seats and 1
infant seat, how do you position the car seats? eg.
Twins side by side or baby in the middle? Just not sure
what would work best. I like the idea of keeping the
twins separate as they are at an age where they could
fight over toys next to each other, however will it be
too hard to lift an infant seat into the middle
position. I would love to hear what has worked best for
others.
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2. switching from formula to cow's milk
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karu_garg - 1/24/2013 10:45 am
The twins are almost a year old and I think it's time
to think about making that switch to cow's milk. I
wanted to ask how you did this, was it precisely at one
year? Did you mix formula and cow's milk in the
beginning? Any insight and your experience would be
much appreciated. We do not see the pediatrician until
2 weeks after their first birthday but will definitely
ask her these questions also. Thanks!
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Email author: karu_garg@hotmail.com
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3. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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1/24/2013 11:25 am
I mixed for about a week and the boys did not miss a
beat. There were no issues. Again, like eliminating
the dream feed, sleep training, etc., their ability to
roll with the punches never ceased to amaze me.But I
think I did not make the switch until they were 13 mo
old. But my boys were preemies.
Email author: regina_eberhart@yahoo.com
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4. karu_garg says...
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1/24/2013 11:50 am
Thanks, ours were born 6 weeks early too, so perhaps I
will just wait and talk to their pediatrician before
making the switch. Thanks for sharing your experience,
your boys sound incredible!!We are STILL giving our
daughter a dream feed (at almost a year!!) because she
pretty much drinks maybe a total of 5-7 oz through out
the day! The only way we can get some formula into her
is giving it while she is asleep which entails a dream
feed and a 5 am feed:( I am hoping she will
miraculously love the cow's milk and turn into a great
eater and let me finally get some uninterrupted
sleep.........
Email author: karu_garg@hotmail.com
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5. mamapod says...
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1/24/2013 12:45 pm
we just recently switched as well. My girls are now 13
months. I think I mixed the first day for only one
feed, then the next day I substituted the cows milk for
one of their not so important feeds (mid day or snack).
We gave it to them cold, as the recommendation of our
pediatrician- to create less work for us. They didn't
love it, but if were hungry would drink it. I think
the next day we just switched cold turkey and never
looked back. I still heat their bottles tho... not
always their snack bottles during the day, but early
morning, evening and before their afternoon nap. Hope
this helps!
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6. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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1/24/2013 12:57 pm
We actually never heated their formula bottles in the
first place (they were EFF since day one) so the
chilled milk was never an issue.And our boys were
CHUGGING 42 oz (!) of formula each a day! So if they
had been drinking so little like your LOs, I would have
definitely kept up the dream feed or whatever
techniques got them to eat. As it was, even with the 42
oz a day, our guys were in the 0% and 10%ile
respectively for weight! I think they were exhausted
each day from metabolizing that much! ehehehe
Email author: regina_eberhart@yahoo.com
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7. exclusively pumping, anyone else?
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rosisu - 1/24/2013 6:06 am
Hello moms,kudos to these that have been able to
breast-feed their twins successfully. I had plan for it
to but the plan did not work since they decided to
arrive early and had difficulty eating efficiently from
the breast, they needed the nipple shield and I had
always to give the bottle with express milk anyway.
Because they needed the calories I needed to complete
with bottle for sure... I know I should have push and
have the cry and continue with the breast, instead I
moved to use the bottle more. Mostly it was a practical
reason, I was alone the all day with two preemies that
needed to feed every 3 hs and it toke one h each to
feed with the bottle, if they would take the breast it
would take longer and was just impossible alone....I
continued to put them on the breast three times a day
for the first two months but then slowly less and less
since they would eat from the bottle the same amount of
milk with or without the breast before....the babies
are now 5 months. my girl still latch and likes to stay
at the breast if she is not too hungry so she can play
with it but if she is hungry she will scream for the
bottle... I still pump and give them 3 to 4 feeds of my
milk with the bottle and one to two feed ( depending on
how hungry they are) in formula. I am now back to work
and I am really down depressed missing them and feeling
a terrible mom because I was not successful in
breast-feeding. talking with mothers of singletons they
are horrified about what I did even my mom and sister
in low...but they have no idea what means being alone
with two premies....the babies did get and they still
get all the nutrients of my milk ...I feel quite a
failure honestly....maybe it is combined with the
return to work...how much will this affect my bond with
the babies...am I the only mom that failed to
successfully breast-feed?
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8. leslieb_sf says...
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1/24/2013 9:21 am
I exclusively pump. I have developed a wonderful bond
with my Symphony - haha. ;) First, bottle feeding will
absolutely not affect your ability to bond with your
babies. And second, not too be too rude but screw
them, you are doing what is best for you and the
babies! You are right, they have no idea what it is
like being a mother of preemie twins and at home alone
with them all day long. I'm sure if you (and I) had a
singleton BF would be a totally different game.I was
also upset that I couldn't BF my preemie twins (born at
34 weeks), and initially felt really bad about it, but
my son was only 2lbs 6oz (he had IUGR) and could only
suck for a few minutes before tiring out, plus he
needed TPN and needed the breast milk fortified to 24
cal at first. My daughter didn't even have the sucking
reflex when she was born.Once they came home I gave EBF
a shot, but I didn't make enough milk and still had to
give them a bottle and my son couldn't latch well after
getting addicted to the Dr. Browns nipple. All I was
doing was feeding them and it sucked! I finally just
gave up (I do sometimes give my daughter the boob if
I'm waiting for a bottle to heat up). I exclusively
pump and give them expressed milk and supplement with
formula. What I do is give about 1/2 of the bottle
with breast milk first and then the second 1/2 with
formula and they are thriving. My babies are 4 months
old now and my son weighs more than my daughter and has
grown over 600% from his birth weight. What really
matters is that you love your children and that they
are thriving on what they eat. You are a success
story! I know it's hard with all the pressures of BF
around here, but know you are in good company (ie. me!)
and our babies are happy and healthy. No one ever
walks into a room and goes - that person was formula
fed, right? ps. I am looking forward to stopping the
pumping at 6 months. I am actually sick of it. And
feel free to reach out to me via my personal email if
you want to talk more.
Email author: leslieellen@gmail.com
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9. rachelaward535 says...
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1/24/2013 11:02 am
I don't know who you have been talking to re mothers of
singletons who have been giving you a hard time - but
tell them to get lost! I have a toddler who I massively
struggled to breastfeed and ended up pumping
exclusively for 7 months. And anyone who tells you are
doing something wrong, is wrong themselves. I know
there is huge pressure to breastfeed, and for those who
can - great! But for those who cant - and there are
MANY MANY MANY who cannot (and those who dont want to -
good for them too) for a myriad of reasons - what
matters most is you are doing what is right for you!
Don't forget most of our parents formula fed us - I was
formula fed from 6 weeks - so were all my siblings -
and we love our parents and turned out great! My
daughter and I have a WONDERFUL relationship - and she
had pumped milk for 7 months. Being able to breastfeed
or not does not make you a successful mum, or not!!!
It's the least of a thousand other loving/caring
things. I know it might not feel like it right now -
but really! Going to back to work is HARD. I cried
every day for 2 months. I PROMISE IT GETS EASIER. I
love my job, and love it still. Plus, we need the
money! I love my daughter and she loves me. Your twins
WILL know you are their Mom - I went through that
paranoia too, and honestly, that it all that it is -
paranoia. Hang in there - it all becomes so much
easier, truly. I am having twins in June - and shall be
going through all this again - but at least I'll know
that whatever I do, it'll be because its the best
choice for me and my kids.
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10. karu_garg says...
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1/24/2013 1:14 pm
My story should certainly make you feel better. I
could never get my milk to come in (pre-eclampsia,
preterm delivery, twins in NICU, lots of stress I think
all contributed) so they got maybe a few oz of
colostrum in their early days but that was pretty much
it. They have been exclusively formula fed from then
on and they are almost a year old now. Do I wish it
had been different? Yes, but I am grateful that they
are happy and healthy and for many other things in my
life. I work full time as well and I like to think my
babies love me no matter what choices I have had to
make. Good luck!
Email author: karu_garg@hotmail.com
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Topic: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser (sorry...long!)
Sorry it's been so long since I have sent an update, there
has been a lot going on...
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11. kaluzoo says...
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1/24/2013 9:00 am
I am so sorry to hear all that you are going through,
though it sure sounds like there is lots to celebrate
this week as well. I don't know how I missed this the
first time around (and thus the sign ups for meals,
etc.) but if someone is still maintaining a list of
things that would be helpful, my husband and I would
like to contribute with whatever makes sense. Sarah
Email author: sarahchandler@gmail.com
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12. leslieb_sf says...
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1/24/2013 9:05 am
Yes, I just signed up via GGMG. Here's the link:
http://www.takethemameal.com/meals.php?t=TEGZ2660
Email author: leslieellen@gmail.com
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13. karu_garg says...
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1/24/2013 10:42 am
Congratulations on bringing Malia home, that's great
news! Sending you lots of good wishes for Kai, hope he
will be home soon too.
Email author: karu_garg@hotmail.com
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