San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 9/1/2015 9:16 am - 9/2/2015
1. Paid Research Study (for 6-10 year olds) (nataliasha2004)
2. Expecting twins - What books should I read? (ergerg)
3. Comment: Expecting twins - What books should I read? (aserkes)
4. Comment: Nap Schedule & Routine (allisonreutter)
5. Comment: Nap Schedule & Routine (cld2011)
6. Comment: Nap Schedule & Routine (aserkes)
7. Comment: How to survive the NICU with a toddler at home (dori513)
8. Comment: UCSF or CPMC to deliver twins? (giddyyoung)
1. Paid Research Study (for 6-10 year olds)
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nataliasha2004 - 9/1/2015 4:49 pm
Another paid study - this one for kids aged 6-10 years
old. Please follow up with Dr. Harper (email below)
directly if interested --
thanks!!**********************************Stanford's
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research is
seeking children ages 6-10 who have never had
anesthesia or who have had anesthesia before the age of
3 to participate in a brain imaging study.Participation
takes about 1 day and includes a cognitive and
behavioral assessment and a magnetic resonance imaging
(MRI) scan of the brain. No medication will be
administered, and we are available weekdays and
weekends. You will receive a research report of the
cognitive testing, a picture of your child's brain, and
a $100 honorarium for participation after completion of
the study.Please email Glorilee Harper, MD, at
gharper@stanford.edu for more information, as we are
happy to answer any questions.
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2. Expecting twins - What books should I read?
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ergerg - 9/1/2015 4:42 pm
Hello! I am feeling the need to read up on what to
expect with twins! Please let me know which books you
found most helpful. I would love your recommendations!
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3. aserkes says...
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9/1/2015 5:20 pm
When You're Expecting Twins, Triplets, or Quads by by
Barbara Luke and Tamara Eberlein. I loved that it was
one of the only science based books I could find that
would answer many of my dietary questions. My husband
thought it was a bit fearmongering. Healthy Sleep
Habits, Happy Twins by Marc Weissbluth M.D. helped
prepare us somewhat for sleep expectations. I found the
book to be really repetitive, but the basic principles
were really helpful. If you plan on breastfeeding, The
Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by La Leche League is
great.
Email author: aserkes@gmail.com
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Topic: Nap Schedule & Routine
Hi Parents,
I am a dad to g/b twins who are 4.5 months old (they will be
5 months...
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4. allisonreutter says...
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9/1/2015 5:36 am
I'm reading the book Contented Little Baby that gives
good suggestions for when they should be napping at
what ages...might be a good resource. My girls are
younger, so sorry I'm not much help.
Email author: allisonreutter@gmail.com
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5. cld2011 says...
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9/1/2015 9:46 am
I will be the first to say that naps are a mystery to
me. I was never able to get my eldest on a nap
schedule -- the nanny did that at around 4.5 months.
And my girls (who are 6.5 months, 4 months adjusted)
are still very hit or miss with naps (they are with
same nanny, who has twins experience and who I
generally call a baby whisperer, but who also seem to
fight a regular nap schedule with her). I think that
your kids are young enough that they actually should
still be on a 3 nap (rather than a 2 nap) schedule. I
think consolidating into 2 naps happens at 7 or 8
months (we seem to be on the verge of it). I would
probably focus on just picking 3 times during the day
when sleep work and scheduling it as you do feeds (e.g.
we do 4 feeds a day, and my girls go to sleep
approximately an 75 - 90 minutes after each feed... or
at least that is the idea. Some days they both sleep,
some days only one. Some days the naps are long, some
days they are short). One of my girls clearly needs
less sleep than the other one. She takes after her
brother and grandfather. So I kind of roll with it.
Obviously not perfect or convenient, because sometimes
there are days when there is always a baby awake, but
if after a number of visits up to the crib to resettle
etc. don't work, I won't force the issue. If she
doesn't want to sleep, she doesn't want to sleep. :)
But again, all of the above is just my winging it
through this. I would focus on initiating 3 naps at
the same time every day, with same conditions (i.e.
dark room etc.; maybe put into sleep sacks during day
if you haven't been; introduce a lovey -- so all cues
say "this is a time for sleep!"), and then see if that
tips the balance over to the "natural falling into
place" of the nap schedule that everyone talks about.
:)
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6. aserkes says...
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9/1/2015 7:33 pm
Agree with the previous poster that two naps happens
closer to 7-8 months. Babies need crazy amounts of
sleep and patience on the parent's part can be hard. We
all want them to just sleep so they'll be happier! At
3-4 months my girls finally started being more regular
about naps, but still taking 4-5 a day. I found putting
them down to sleep every 90 minutes was key. So, if
they woke up at 9 am, they were back in their cribs to
nap at 10:30. If they slept for 30 minutes and woke at
11, they went down for another nap at 12:30. It didn't
matter if they seemed sleepy or not and I found that
sticking with the 90 minutes of awake time really
helped make it easier to get them to nap and to nap
well. They fell into a routine fairly quickly once I
started this. Eventually the evening nap disappeared
and the afternoon one got longer. By 6 months we were
on three naps a day.By watching their awake level I
was able to lengthen the 90 minutes to two hours
between naps after a few months. They didn't drop down
to two naps until about 7 months. Once that was
adjusted, I started using a 2-3-4 schedule which worked
wonders. If they woke at 7, they went down to nap at 9.
If they awoke from that nap at 10, they went down for
the second nap at 1. After a few months of this I was
able to just use set times of day to put them down (9
and 2). Hope this makes sense and helps. Some of it is
a blur of course. I also used sleep sacks for naps and
bed as well as lovies. When they wouldn't consolidate
to longer naps (during their three nap phase), I had
them nap in our bed and found they magically napped
longer. We had to move them out when they became more
mobile around 8-9 months, but by then their better
sleep patterns were well established. -Allison
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Topic: How to survive the NICU with a toddler at home
Hi Team,
I am 28 weeks with identical boys, one with significant
growth restriction...
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7. dori513 says...
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9/1/2015 10:02 am
Thanks so much moms for all your advice. My oldest is
in preschool so Im lucky that daytime support for him
is covered. A couple more days to make it to 30 weeks
and just trying to take it one appointment at a time.
Grateful at least to have this chance to prepare and
for the support I've gotten from all the moms here!
Email author: dorianabailey@gmail.com
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Topic: UCSF or CPMC to deliver twins?
Hello! I'm new to the group and brand new to knowing we will
be having twins! Even...
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8. giddyyoung says...
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9/1/2015 12:43 pm
I delivered identical twin boys at 37 weeks at UCSF and
wish I had chosen a different hospital. The prenatal
care was excellent (if not over the top conservative)
but the delivery and the postpartum care were very
disappointing. They induced me and about 12 hours
later checked my cervix. The midwife that did so made
an error in her assessment and stated I was dilated to
6cm when I was actually only dilated to 2cm. This was
not discovered for another 12 hours. After 40 hours of
labor I was finally taken into the OR for a C section.
I ended up having a blood transfusion and during the
procedure a nerve was pinched in my leg and I was
unable to walk (no feeling at all in my right foot)
when the meds wore off. I had to have physical
therapy, a walker, and a brace and I'm still recovering
from the issue (my boys turned 4 months on Friday).
The nurses were hit or miss. Some more awesome and
some were horrendous. One left a lancet in my son's
diaper (it was retracted, but still). One didn't give
me my pain meds on time (she was four hours late and I
had to call her repeatedly, this was the day after my
boys were born). I had to ask three nurses (different
nurses on 12 hour shifts) to help me take a shower
(remember I couldn't walk). I finally got a shower
four days after they were born, 6 days after we checked
in. My one son was in the NICU for low body temp
readings and while their excellent NICU was one of the
reasons we chose UCSF, the unit itself is pretty far
from the postpartum rooms and I found most of the
nurses to be rude. They bathed my son without asking
(and then argued with me when I told them I was upset
about it), they gave him a pacifier without asking,
they repeatedly fed him formula before I arrived to
breastfeed him (I scheduled breastfeeding times with
the nurses prior so they knew I was coming; this
happened so many times I lost count), and they were
giving him large quantities as well (they were stuffing
him full with as much as 50mls the day after he was
born, to keep him quiet I'm sure). They will tell you
they are pro-breastfeeding but the NICU did nothing to
support it and I actually felt they were sabotaging my
efforts. Students are constantly in your room, and
it's not as if they are standing there listening to the
attending doc talk; they come in first, go over their
questions, then the attending comes in and goes over it
all over again. So everything is double the time and
it's quite irritating when you are so exhausted and
just want to some private time to try to nurse your
babies. So overall, it was a negative experience. Did
we all come home in one piece, yes, so what I can say,
but I would not recommend them.
Email author: giddyyoung@yahoo.com
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