[House] San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion forum digest - 1/8/2013

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San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 1/7/2013
10:14 am - 1/8/2013

1. questions about average/appropriate nanny pay (anonymous)
2. Comment: questions about average/appropriate nanny pay (leslieb_sf)
3. Comment: questions about average/appropriate nanny pay (kaluzoo)
4. Comment: Warming Twins Bottles ? (twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
5. Comment: Having to leave babies in NICU...how do I cope...
(karu_garg)
6. Comment: Having to leave babies in NICU...how do I cope...
(twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
7. Comment: Having to leave babies in NICU...how do I cope... (elyich)

1. questions about average/appropriate nanny pay
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anonymous - 1/7/2013 4:23 pm

 My nanny has been with us for 2.5 years since my first
 child was 4 months old. Our nanny is wonderful and we
 are very grateful to have her.She was young and
 relatively inexperienced when we hired her and we
 agreed on a wage of $17/hour, which she was very happy
 with. I realize this is on the lower end of the
 spectrum, but because of her age and lack of experience
 everyone seemed happy.For no particular reason, she did
 not get a raise after working for us for a year. It was
 not intentional, but it just didn't happen. So on her
 two year anniversary, we offered her a raise to
 $20/hour for the care of our one child. I had just
 recently had twins as well, but we made it clear that
 this was just a raise because she had been with us for
 two years, and was not intended to be a raise for the
 care of now 3 children. We have had substantial other
 help with the twins for their early months.Although
 $20/hour is still not on the high end of the scale for
 one child (I don't think), it was a significant raise
 from her previous rate.We are now about to start
 discussing a raise again because she has some
 responsibility for the twins. Her schedule is blended.
 She sometimes has just the twins, sometimes just the
 toddler, and occasionally all three. I want to give her
 one rate though.Basically, she cares for the twins solo
 on Monday, Wednesday and Friday mornings when the
 toddler is in preschool. On those days she is not
 really responsible for the toddler until after her nap
 at about 4 pm. On Tuesdays and Thursdays she has all
 three from 8 am to 9 am and then we have a part time
 nanny that is here from 9-1:30, so she doesn't have the
 twins again until after that. The twins sleep until 3
 and the toddler sleeps until 4. 5 days a week she has
 all three from after the toddler nap until 5 pm, when
 the part time nanny comes again every day to care for
 the twins through their bedtime.Where you ask am I? I'm
 working. From the office M,T,TH, and from home
 W,F.Anyway, she has all three for about 1/8 of the
 time, twins solo for about 1/2 of the time, toddler
 solo for about 1/4 and blended help either from me or
 the other nanny 1/8 of the time. It's all kind of
 fluid.So my husband and I had kind of decided to give
 her another raise up to $22/hour, which seemed pretty
 fair for the schedule she has and in comparison to her
 previous compensation.However, she came to us and asked
 us to pay for her health insurance instead of a raise.
 She is turning 26 and will be bumped off her parents
 insurance. I told her we of course have intended to
 give her a raise with the new year and that we can
 discuss the raise vs. help with healthcare (I did not
 commit to paying it in full). She wants to continue
 with the same policy, and she just informed me that it
 will be $450/month for her medical and dental
 benefits.I had my accountant do the calculations (we
 pay her 40 hours/week over the table and generally
 about 12.5 hours/week under the table). I wanted to see
 what the $22/hour raise would net her with the over and
 under table pay, and what it would take to get her to
 the $450 extra per month she is requesting.$450/month
 is essentially a raise to about $24/hour. This is
 definitely higher than we had intended, especially
 since we also recently hired a part time nanny to help
 with the twins to minimize anyone's time alone with all
 three.I am trying to figure out how to approach this. I
 want her to be happy. I don't think she will leave us.
 But I just want her to be happy. I also don't want to
 pay more than we are comfortable. We are pretty
 stretched right now with all this help (yes, I know it
 is a luxury). But while the babies are young we decided
 it was worth it.I just want to know what is average pay
 for a nanny with her type of responsibility. I don't
 think $24 is out of the range even though it is more
 than I'd like. But is $22 crazy low? Or decent given
 her previous rate?Thanks.

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 2. leslieb_sf says...
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 1/7/2013 6:29 pm
 
 I was just in the process of hiring a nanny for my
 infant twins and it seems like you are in the ballpark
 with $24/hr for a nanny for infant twins. The people I
 interviewed from both care.com and those I found
 through GGMG or SFPOM had a going rate range of
 $22-$25/hr for twins. I have heard of a range going as
 low as $20/hr and as high as $30/hr ($30/hr seems
 ridiculous to me).
 Email author: leslieellen at gmail.com
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 3. kaluzoo says...
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 1/7/2013 10:48 pm
 
 We pay our amazing nanny $24/hour for our 8 month old
 twins (no other kids, and she's full time). She has
 significant experience, much of it with twins, though
 it sounds like your nanny is pretty experienced at this
 point now as well :).
 Email author: sarahchandler at gmail.com
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Topic: Warming Twins Bottles ?

 Hello, 
 
 First day home with my twin girls and we are having a tough
 time with the...

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 4. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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 1/7/2013 10:38 am
 
 we used room temp water. They got used to it pretty
 quickly. It made life MUCH easier.
 Email author: regina_eberhart at yahoo.com
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Topic: Having to leave babies in NICU...how do I cope?

 I gave birth to 2 sweet babies on Jan. 1, at 32 weeks. We
 were obviously hoping to...

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NICU...how do I cope?"

 5. karu_garg says...
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 1/7/2013 10:53 am
 
 Hi, Our babies were in the NICU for 10 days and 3 weeks
 respectively. While it's hard, know that they are
 receiving the best possible care that they can, and
 that you can learn a lot from those amazing NICU
 nurses. This is also an opportunity for you to take
 time and rest and heal, because believe me you will
 have NO time once those babies are home. Hang in
 there, you will all be together (at home) soon! Good
 luck!!
 Email author: karu_garg at hotmail.com
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 6. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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 1/7/2013 1:24 pm
 
 What everyone else said! We used the time in the NICU
 to heal and sleep, have dinner together before the
 crazy began, and spent our days learning how to be a
 mom and dad to our new babes--we got great advice from
 the NICU docs and nurses. I know it sucks, but they
 are getting great care!
 Email author: regina_eberhart at yahoo.com
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 7. elyich says...
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 1/7/2013 11:35 pm
 
 Like everyone else, it's definitely hard to leave them
 there. I shed many tears and wasn't afraid to do so.
 Even though I knew they were in the best care, you
 can't help but feel overwhelmingly sad. Be with loved
 ones and heal because once they get home they will
 require all your energy. Hang in there!
 Email author: elyich at yahoo.com
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