[House] San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion forum digest - 1/25/2013

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San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 1/24/2013
10:15 am - 1/25/2013

1. Car seat position question (trandmp)
2. switching from formula to cow's milk (karu_garg)
3. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk
(twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
4. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk (karu_garg)
5. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk (mamapod)
6. Comment: switching from formula to cow's milk
(twin_boys_on_twinpeaks)
7. exclusively pumping, anyone else? (rosisu)
8. Comment: exclusively pumping, anyone else? (leslieb_sf)
9. Comment: exclusively pumping, anyone else? (rachelaward535)
10. Comment: exclusively pumping, anyone else? (karu_garg)
11. Comment: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser... (kaluzoo)
12. Comment: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser... (leslieb_sf)
13. Comment: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser... (karu_garg)

1. Car seat position question
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trandmp - 1/24/2013 4:14 pm

 I have 2 year old twins who are in forward facing car
 seats and am due with another baby in 2 weeks. For
 those of you who have 2 forward facing seats and 1
 infant seat, how do you position the car seats? eg.
 Twins side by side or baby in the middle? Just not sure
 what would work best. I like the idea of keeping the
 twins separate as they are at an age where they could
 fight over toys next to each other, however will it be
 too hard to lift an infant seat into the middle
 position. I would love to hear what has worked best for
 others.

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2. switching from formula to cow's milk
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karu_garg - 1/24/2013 10:45 am

 The twins are almost a year old and I think it's time
 to think about making that switch to cow's milk. I
 wanted to ask how you did this, was it precisely at one
 year? Did you mix formula and cow's milk in the
 beginning? Any insight and your experience would be
 much appreciated. We do not see the pediatrician until
 2 weeks after their first birthday but will definitely
 ask her these questions also. Thanks!

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Email author: karu_garg at hotmail.com
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 3. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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 1/24/2013 11:25 am
 
 I mixed for about a week and the boys did not miss a
 beat. There were no issues. Again, like eliminating
 the dream feed, sleep training, etc., their ability to
 roll with the punches never ceased to amaze me.But I
 think I did not make the switch until they were 13 mo
 old. But my boys were preemies.
 Email author: regina_eberhart at yahoo.com
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 4. karu_garg says...
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 1/24/2013 11:50 am
 
 Thanks, ours were born 6 weeks early too, so perhaps I
 will just wait and talk to their pediatrician before
 making the switch. Thanks for sharing your experience,
 your boys sound incredible!!We are STILL giving our
 daughter a dream feed (at almost a year!!) because she
 pretty much drinks maybe a total of 5-7 oz through out
 the day! The only way we can get some formula into her
 is giving it while she is asleep which entails a dream
 feed and a 5 am feed:( I am hoping she will
 miraculously love the cow's milk and turn into a great
 eater and let me finally get some uninterrupted
 sleep.........
 Email author: karu_garg at hotmail.com
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 5. mamapod says...
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 1/24/2013 12:45 pm
 
 we just recently switched as well. My girls are now 13
 months. I think I mixed the first day for only one
 feed, then the next day I substituted the cows milk for
 one of their not so important feeds (mid day or snack).
 We gave it to them cold, as the recommendation of our
 pediatrician- to create less work for us. They didn't
 love it, but if were hungry would drink it. I think
 the next day we just switched cold turkey and never
 looked back. I still heat their bottles tho... not
 always their snack bottles during the day, but early
 morning, evening and before their afternoon nap. Hope
 this helps!
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 6. twin_boys_on_twinpeaks says...
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 1/24/2013 12:57 pm
 
 We actually never heated their formula bottles in the
 first place (they were EFF since day one) so the
 chilled milk was never an issue.And our boys were
 CHUGGING 42 oz (!) of formula each a day! So if they
 had been drinking so little like your LOs, I would have
 definitely kept up the dream feed or whatever
 techniques got them to eat. As it was, even with the 42
 oz a day, our guys were in the 0% and 10%ile
 respectively for weight! I think they were exhausted
 each day from metabolizing that much! ehehehe
 Email author: regina_eberhart at yahoo.com
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7. exclusively pumping, anyone else?
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rosisu - 1/24/2013 6:06 am

 Hello moms,kudos to these that have been able to
 breast-feed their twins successfully. I had plan for it
 to but the plan did not work since they decided to
 arrive early and had difficulty eating efficiently from
 the breast, they needed the nipple shield and I had
 always to give the bottle with express milk anyway.
 Because they needed the calories I needed to complete
 with bottle for sure... I know I should have push and
 have the cry and continue with the breast, instead I
 moved to use the bottle more. Mostly it was a practical
 reason, I was alone the all day with two preemies that
 needed to feed every 3 hs and it toke one h each to
 feed with the bottle, if they would take the breast it
 would take longer and was just impossible alone....I
 continued to put them on the breast three times a day
 for the first two months but then slowly less and less
 since they would eat from the bottle the same amount of
 milk with or without the breast before....the babies
 are now 5 months. my girl still latch and likes to stay
 at the breast if she is not too hungry so she can play
 with it but if she is hungry she will scream for the
 bottle... I still pump and give them 3 to 4 feeds of my
 milk with the bottle and one to two feed ( depending on
 how hungry they are) in formula. I am now back to work
 and I am really down depressed missing them and feeling
 a terrible mom because I was not successful in
 breast-feeding. talking with mothers of singletons they
 are horrified about what I did even my mom and sister
 in low...but they have no idea what means being alone
 with two premies....the babies did get and they still
 get all the nutrients of my milk ...I feel quite a
 failure honestly....maybe it is combined with the
 return to work...how much will this affect my bond with
 the babies...am I the only mom that failed to
 successfully breast-feed?

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Email author: rosis at ptrehab.ucsf.edu
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 8. leslieb_sf says...
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 1/24/2013 9:21 am
 
 I exclusively pump. I have developed a wonderful bond
 with my Symphony - haha. ;) First, bottle feeding will
 absolutely not affect your ability to bond with your
 babies. And second, not too be too rude but screw
 them, you are doing what is best for you and the
 babies! You are right, they have no idea what it is
 like being a mother of preemie twins and at home alone
 with them all day long. I'm sure if you (and I) had a
 singleton BF would be a totally different game.I was
 also upset that I couldn't BF my preemie twins (born at
 34 weeks), and initially felt really bad about it, but
 my son was only 2lbs 6oz (he had IUGR) and could only
 suck for a few minutes before tiring out, plus he
 needed TPN and needed the breast milk fortified to 24
 cal at first. My daughter didn't even have the sucking
 reflex when she was born.Once they came home I gave EBF
 a shot, but I didn't make enough milk and still had to
 give them a bottle and my son couldn't latch well after
 getting addicted to the Dr. Browns nipple. All I was
 doing was feeding them and it sucked! I finally just
 gave up (I do sometimes give my daughter the boob if
 I'm waiting for a bottle to heat up). I exclusively
 pump and give them expressed milk and supplement with
 formula. What I do is give about 1/2 of the bottle
 with breast milk first and then the second 1/2 with
 formula and they are thriving. My babies are 4 months
 old now and my son weighs more than my daughter and has
 grown over 600% from his birth weight. What really
 matters is that you love your children and that they
 are thriving on what they eat. You are a success
 story! I know it's hard with all the pressures of BF
 around here, but know you are in good company (ie. me!)
 and our babies are happy and healthy. No one ever
 walks into a room and goes - that person was formula
 fed, right? ps. I am looking forward to stopping the
 pumping at 6 months. I am actually sick of it. And
 feel free to reach out to me via my personal email if
 you want to talk more.
 Email author: leslieellen at gmail.com
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 9. rachelaward535 says...
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 1/24/2013 11:02 am
 
 I don't know who you have been talking to re mothers of
 singletons who have been giving you a hard time - but
 tell them to get lost! I have a toddler who I massively
 struggled to breastfeed and ended up pumping
 exclusively for 7 months. And anyone who tells you are
 doing something wrong, is wrong themselves. I know
 there is huge pressure to breastfeed, and for those who
 can - great! But for those who cant - and there are
 MANY MANY MANY who cannot (and those who dont want to -
 good for them too) for a myriad of reasons - what
 matters most is you are doing what is right for you!
 Don't forget most of our parents formula fed us - I was
 formula fed from 6 weeks - so were all my siblings -
 and we love our parents and turned out great! My
 daughter and I have a WONDERFUL relationship - and she
 had pumped milk for 7 months. Being able to breastfeed
 or not does not make you a successful mum, or not!!!
 It's the least of a thousand other loving/caring
 things. I know it might not feel like it right now -
 but really! Going to back to work is HARD. I cried
 every day for 2 months. I PROMISE IT GETS EASIER. I
 love my job, and love it still. Plus, we need the
 money! I love my daughter and she loves me. Your twins
 WILL know you are their Mom - I went through that
 paranoia too, and honestly, that it all that it is -
 paranoia. Hang in there - it all becomes so much
 easier, truly. I am having twins in June - and shall be
 going through all this again - but at least I'll know
 that whatever I do, it'll be because its the best
 choice for me and my kids.
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 10. karu_garg says...
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 1/24/2013 1:14 pm
 
 My story should certainly make you feel better. I
 could never get my milk to come in (pre-eclampsia,
 preterm delivery, twins in NICU, lots of stress I think
 all contributed) so they got maybe a few oz of
 colostrum in their early days but that was pretty much
 it. They have been exclusively formula fed from then
 on and they are almost a year old now. Do I wish it
 had been different? Yes, but I am grateful that they
 are happy and healthy and for many other things in my
 life. I work full time as well and I like to think my
 babies love me no matter what choices I have had to
 make. Good luck!
 Email author: karu_garg at hotmail.com
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Topic: New Update: Moving one twin to Kaiser (sorry...long!)

 Sorry it's been so long since I have sent an update, there
 has been a lot going on...

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 11. kaluzoo says...
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 1/24/2013 9:00 am
 
 I am so sorry to hear all that you are going through,
 though it sure sounds like there is lots to celebrate
 this week as well. I don't know how I missed this the
 first time around (and thus the sign ups for meals,
 etc.) but if someone is still maintaining a list of
 things that would be helpful, my husband and I would
 like to contribute with whatever makes sense. Sarah
 Email author: sarahchandler at gmail.com
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 12. leslieb_sf says...
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 1/24/2013 9:05 am
 
 Yes, I just signed up via GGMG. Here's the link:
 http://www.takethemameal.com/meals.php?t=TEGZ2660
 Email author: leslieellen at gmail.com
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 13. karu_garg says...
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 1/24/2013 10:42 am
 
 Congratulations on bringing Malia home, that's great
 news! Sending you lots of good wishes for Kai, hope he
 will be home soon too.
 Email author: karu_garg at hotmail.com
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