[House] San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion forum digest - 3/26/2013
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San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 3/25/2013
9:14 am - 3/26/2013
1. Recommendations on babysitter services? (kaluzoo)
2. cleaning service/maid? (bhavna12)
3. Re: General Meeting About Private and Public Kindergart...
(nataliasha2004)
4. Feeding solids... (noursej)
5. Re: General Meeting About Private and Public Kindergart...
(twinpeakstwins)
6. FS: Kids Newport H2 Keens (VickiZettler)
7. Spring camp (gabriellesparkly)
8. Re: [sfpom_general] Spring camp (twinpeakstwins)
9. First haircut? (bhavna12)
10. Comment: Fighting babies about food (R3ALMhouse)
11. Comment: Fighting babies about food (jessicafsf)
12. Comment: Can you see www.sfpom.org ? (katyperez)
13. Comment: Can you see www.sfpom.org ? (tiffntwins)
14. Comment: Schools? (seabringwatts)
15. Re: [sfpom_general] Schools? (bravermang)
16. Comment: Schools? (kaoneill)
17. Comment: Schools? (j_pawlikowski)
18. Re: [sfpom_general] Schools? (bravermang)
19. Comment: What's the going rate for a nanny taking...
(twinpeakstwins)
20. Comment: What's the going rate for a nanny taking... (bhavna12)
1. Recommendations on babysitter services?
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kaluzoo - 3/26/2013 12:26 am
Hello Twin Parents,Any recommendations on babysitter
services? We have used Urban Sitter a few times and
have found two sitters we liked through them. But
those two are often booked and our attempts at booking
other sitters through them have not worked out so well
(one person cancelled 40 mins after the job
started...). They also seem pretty expensive to me
(mostly bc they don't offer a daytime vs nighttime rate
- it feels crazy to me to pay someone $20/hour to sit
on my couch while the kids sleep...). Their credit
card fee (one of the major conveniences) is also very
high (though I could of course get it together and pay
cash :) ).Any advice on alternatives?Sarah
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services?"
Email author: sarahchandler at gmail.com
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2. cleaning service/maid?
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bhavna12 - 3/25/2013 5:12 pm
Anybody know of a good cleaning service/maid? We are
looking for someone to come 2, maybe 3x/month depending
on how dirty our place gets. thank you
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Email author: bhavna at gmail.com
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3. Re: General Meeting About Private and Public Kindergarten
School Process
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nataliasha2004 - 3/25/2013 1:31 pm
James, THANK YOU! You are a doll - this is incredibly
helpful, and should be MOST handy for whoever we can
find to help!Natasha_________________ From: james
donaher To: Natasha Glushkoff ; Virginia Watts Sent:
Monday, March 25, 2013 1:20 PMSubject: Re: General
Meeting About Private and Public Kindergarten School
ProcessI put this list together a couple of years ago
for Sebastian to find a volunteer to help with this
type of event.Here is a list of the steps the volunteer
coordinator needs to take to create a General
Meeting/Panel on the Kindergarten Application Process
in San FranciscoThe budget for this meeting should be
about $600.$150 for speakers/parents$375 for food
(based on 25 people)$25 for suppliesThe Sports Basement
event space is free.So if you choose another space add
in the rental.Get 5 parents from different types of
schools to volunteer and agree on a date and time in
September. 2 Public2 Private1 CatholicPossible dates in
Setember are...9, 10, 11, 1223, 24, 25, 26The date and
time also has to be available at the location. The
Sports Basement space contact is Ian.The Sports
Basement would prefer the time to be from
6:00pm-8:00pm.The agenda has to be set. I'm not sure
but there might be an old agenda floating around.The
various parents have to be briefed on what to say and
reminded that any thing they say can be misunderstood
and interpreted so be careful how you say it.Handouts:
Including a variety of private, catholic and public
school applications.Important materials and updates
from the SFUSD picked up at the school district office
on Franklin Street.Schedule the catering, pick up or
delivery based on the number of RSVPs. Around
$15/person.Schedule 2 back up parents just incase
someone cancelsThe date has to be set 2 months ahead
(in July) to make it into the newsletter. List the
event on big tent 1 month prior to the event, send out
reminders 1 week and 2 days prior to the event. Actual
coordination on the night of the meeting. Arrive 30
minutes prior at 5:30pm.Setup up chairs, tables and
supplies for food. ie, utensils, plates, name tags,
sign in sheet, etc.Keeping all on topic, track and
time. Clarifying anything that comes up that might be
miss understood.Take notes to be posted on Big Tent for
all that could not attend in person.Stay 30 minutes
later to clean up. Written thank you notes and a small
gift are needed for parents who volunteer. A $25
Safeway gift card each.Then an expense report needs to
be filed out, receipts scanned, and all sent by email
to the treasurer for reimbursement. James DonaherDad to
Ian and Isabella age 5 1/2.
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and Public Kindergarten
School Process"
Email author: nataliasha2004 at yahoo.com
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4. Feeding solids...
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noursej - 3/25/2013 1:27 pm
Interesting piece in the NY Times today:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/health/many-babies-fed-solid-food-too-soon-cdc-finds.html?_r=2&
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Email author: noursejlm at gmail.com
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5. Re: General Meeting About Private and Public Kindergarten
School Process
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twinpeakstwins - 3/25/2013 1:20 pm
I put this list together a couple of years ago for
Sebastian to find a volunteer to help with this type of
event.Here is a list of the steps the volunteer
coordinator needs to take to create a General
Meeting/Panel on the Kindergarten Application Process
in San FranciscoThe budget for this meeting should be
about $600.$150 for speakers/parents$375 for food
(based on 25 people)$25 for suppliesThe Sports Basement
event space is free.So if you choose another space add
in the rental.Get 5 parents from different types of
schools to volunteer and agree on a date and time in
September. 2 Public2 Private1 CatholicPossible dates in
Setember are...9, 10, 11, 1223, 24, 25, 26The date and
time also has to be available at the location. The
Sports Basement space contact is Ian.The Sports
Basement would prefer the time to be from
6:00pm-8:00pm.The agenda has to be set. I'm not sure
but there might be an old agenda floating around.The
various parents have to be briefed on what to say and
reminded that any thing they say can be misunderstood
and interpreted so be careful how you say it.Handouts:
Including a variety of private, catholic and public
school applications.Important materials and updates
from the SFUSD picked up at the school district office
on Franklin Street.Schedule the catering, pick up or
delivery based on the number of RSVPs. Around
$15/person.Schedule 2 back up parents just incase
someone cancelsThe date has to be set 2 months ahead
(in July) to make it into the newsletter. List the
event on big tent 1 month prior to the event, send out
reminders 1 week and 2 days prior to the event. Actual
coordination on the night of the meeting. Arrive 30
minutes prior at 5:30pm.Setup up chairs, tables and
supplies for food. ie, utensils, plates, name tags,
sign in sheet, etc.Keeping all on topic, track and
time. Clarifying anything that comes up that might be
miss understood.Take notes to be posted on Big Tent for
all that could not attend in person.Stay 30 minutes
later to clean up. Written thank you notes and a small
gift are needed for parents who volunteer. A $25
Safeway gift card each.Then an expense report needs to
be filed out, receipts scanned, and all sent by email
to the treasurer for reimbursement. James DonaherDad to
Ian and Isabella age 5 1/2.
Send comment to:
With subject line: "Ref#77027864 - Re: General Meeting About Private
and Public Kindergarten
School Process"
Email author: twinpeakstwins at yahoo.com
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6. FS: Kids Newport H2 Keens
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VickiZettler - 3/25/2013 1:12 pm
We have 3 pairs of almost new, great condition Newport
H2 children's keensto sell (lost 2 pair in several
moves and replaced one pair.now all are toosmall!)
They are all size 13. We would like $15 for each pair.
One is olive and black, one light blue and navy and
one is red and black.Pick up in either Pacifica or SF,
you name it. Cash only please. Photos either attached
or on request. Thanks! Vickivzettler at gmail.com
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Email author: vzettler at gmail.com
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7. Spring camp
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gabriellesparkly - 3/25/2013 9:14 am
Anyone looking for somewhere for their kids to go over
the next 2 weeks - SF Quest Kids run a spring camp and
offer a discount to our club. Original Price is
$350/week or $85/dayTwins Discount Price: $630/week or
$140/day. Just mention TWINS when booking and SFPOM. My
two had a great time there.
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Email author: gabriellekuzak at googlemail.com
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8. twinpeakstwins says...
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3/25/2013 1:27 pm
Camp Edmo also has a discount for siblings plus $50 off
for first timers.Code: FIRSTREF13Referring Family:
James DonaherTwinpeakstwins at yahoo.comArts babies will generally not
starve
themselves. One day they'll eat so little you wonder
how they manage and the next day, they'll eat so much
you wonder where they put it all! Let them eat as much
as they want to when they are hungry and if they don't
want to eat, don't force them. I have no experience
with bottles at that age and have no advice about
nipples.
Email author: house at digitalkingdom.org
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11. jessicafsf says...
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3/25/2013 4:40 pm
Ditto the previous poster. Don't freak out! Kids vary
their habits for mysterious reasons. Growth spurts,
sudden fascination with the world around them, minor
illnesses that aren't really noticeable except for
symptoms like loss of appetite. Or a change in routine
- if the crosscut nipples are new and strange, it may
take a day or two for the little one to adjust. They
know what they need, so just follow their
lead.Hopefully by now they are back to their normal,
reassuring patterns... and have left the 2AM feedings
behind!
Email author: jessica at burrows.net
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Topic: Can you see www.sfpom.org ?
Dear parents, I am in the process of figuring out why some
of our members (including...
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12. katyperez says...
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3/25/2013 9:08 am
I can see it - I am at home on Comcast, using wireless.
Email author: ktloomis25 at aol.com
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13. tiffntwins says...
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3/25/2013 9:01 pm
I can see it from home, using Firefox browser, on
Pacifica Net wireless.
Email author: t1ffbunny at yahoo.com
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Topic: Schools?
So many questions. Hoping the parents of twins elders here
can provide some insight/advice/shar...
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14. seabringwatts says...
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3/25/2013 12:18 pm
Hi again,I thought I'd re-post since noursej wanted to
hear what the results were for us. There is also
another thread going about the SFUSD lottery where
several of us posted (including me) so you can check
that out.I plan to email the president of SFPOM to see
if we can set up another kindergarten education night
like we used to have, so that parents like myself can
share their experiences and answer questions for those
of you are just starting/thinking about this process.
I will gladly participate in it. I also think the more
people you talk to, to inform yourself about the
process, the better. That is how I learned a lot.I'm
also friends with Tejal Shah who started KidAdmit --
the online preschool directory/application process.
Her son goes to preschool with my twins and she
realized how difficult/confusing this process is so she
started this website. Her long term vision is to have
it for kindergarten, too, which would be a huge boon.
Not sure it will be in place for those of you applying
in the next 2 years, but keep the faith!OK, so here is
what happened for us:We got very lucky, I think. We
applied to 6 private schools for our boy/girl twins:
Alta Vista, Children's Day, Live Oak, Marin Prep, SF
Day and SF Friends. We were accepted at 3: Alta
Vista, Marin Prep and SF Day. We got waitlisted at the
other 3. We told Live Oak to remove our name from the
waitlist as we had these other 3 choices. We asked to
remain on the waitlist at CDS and Friends because we
really liked those schools. We applied for financial
aid for all 6 schools. We were offered a very little
bit at SF Day and a little more at Alta Vista.For the
SFUSD lottery, we listed 10 schools and we did check
the "twin" box which means that we wanted our twins to
go through the lottery together and be assigned the
same school. When you do this, you also list the exact
same schools on each child's application. We got our
#5 school, Alvarado, which is also our attendance area
school. We liked all of our top 5 schools equally and
only listed Alvarado at the bottom of these 5 because
we knew we had more of an advantage with it being our
neighborhood school. We figured why not try for the
other ones. (This process will become more clear when
you understand how the lottery works.)In the end, it
was a very difficult decision for us because we loved
all 4 schools we were choosing between. But
finanically the commitment to a private K-8 school was
too much for us to bear long term. We could do barely
just afford it, and it would hinder our ability to save
money for college or potentially private middle/high
schools if we go that route. For us, we decided that
the added stress and the less overall expendable income
would be a hindrance to our family that outweighed a
private education...especially when we had a good
public school like Alvarado.Also, it appealed to us
that we would be sending our twins to a neighborhood
school where a lot of children who attend would also
live in our neighborhood.It is an extremely personal
decision, and one that you cannot make until you have
the options in front of you -- whether they be private
or public or both. But ultimately, being informed
about all our options by talking to other parents and
running our own financial models is what enabled us to
make this decision.I'm happy to be a resource to talk
to other parents who are about to embark on this
process and to pay it forward. Good luck to all of
you! Virginiamom to Alexandra and Trevor, age 5
Email author: seabringwatts at gmail.com
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15. bravermang says...
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3/25/2013 12:30 pm
I am happy to participate on the kind of panel that
SFPOM put together in the past. I went when my kids
were a year old and it was great! My kids are in
private school now: CDS. I am happy to be a
resource.GedaliaDad to Ari and EllaSent from my
iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Virginia Watts
wrote: Virginia Watts commented: Hi again, I thought
I'd re-post since noursej wanted to hear what the
results were for us. There is also another thread
going about the SFUSD lottery where several of us
posted (including me) so you can check that out. I plan
to email the president of SFPOM to see if we can set up
another kindergarten education night like we used to
have, so that parents like myself can share their
experiences and answer questions for those of you are
just starting/thinking about this process. I will
gladly participate in it. I also think the more people
you talk to, to inform yourself about the process, the
better. That is how I learned a lot. I'm also friends
with Tejal Shah who started KidAdmit -- the online
preschool directory/application process. Her son goes
to preschool with my twins and she realized how
difficult/confusing this process is so she started this
website. Her long term vision is to have it for
kindergarten, too, which would be a huge boon. Not
sure it will be in place for those of you applying in
the next 2 years, but keep the faith! OK, so here is
what happened for us: We got very lucky, I think. We
applied to 6 private schools for our boy/girl twins:
Alta Vista, Children's Day, Live Oak, Marin Prep, SF
Day and SF Friends. We were accepted at 3: Alta
Vista, Marin Prep and SF Day. We got waitlisted at the
other 3. We told Live Oak to remove our name from the
waitlist as we had these other 3 choices. We asked to
remain on the waitlist at CDS and Friends because we
really liked those schools. We applied for financial
aid for all 6 schools. We were offered a very little
bit at SF Day and a little more at Alta Vista. For the
SFUSD lottery, we listed 10 schools and we did check
the "twin" box which means that we wanted our twins to
go through the lottery together and be assigned the
same school. When you do this, you also list the exact
same schools on each child's application. We got our
#5 school, Alvarado, which is also our attendance area
school. We liked all of our top 5 schools equally and
only listed Alvarado at the bottom of these 5 because
we knew we had more of an advantage with it being our
neighborhood school. We figured why not try for the
other ones. (This process will become more clear when
you understand how the lottery works.) In the end, it
was a very difficult decision for us because we loved
all 4 schools we were choosing between. But
finanically the commitment to a private K-8 school was
too much for us to bear long term. We could do barely
just afford it, and it would hinder our ability to save
money for college or potentially private middle/high
schools if we go that route. For us, we decided that
the added stress and the less overall expendable income
would be a hindrance to our family that outweighed a
private education...especially when we had a good
public school like Alvarado. Also, it appealed to us
that we would be sending our twins to a neighborhood
school where a lot of children who attend would also
live in our neighborhood. It is an extremely personal
decision, and one that you cannot make until you have
the options in front of you -- whether they be private
or public or both. But ultimately, being informed
about all our options by talking to other parents and
running our own financial models is what enabled us to
make this decision. I'm happy to be a resource to talk
to other parents who are about to embark on this
process and to pay it forward. Good luck to all of
you! Virginia mom to Alexandra and Trevor, age 5 Add
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16. kaoneill says...
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3/25/2013 2:27 pm
To those who have been through the process, how much
emphasis did you place on having at least 2 classes per
grade, so that the twins could be in separate
classrooms? I know that many (most?) of the private
schools in SF are only 1 class per grade... It seems
this could be quite limiting.
Email author: karen.anne.oneill at gmail.com
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17. j_pawlikowski says...
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3/25/2013 2:36 pm
Has anyone heard anything about or do any of your
children attend the public montessori school in sfusd?
Thanks,
Janine
Email author: janinerenej at gmail.com
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18. bravermang says...
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3/25/2013 2:45 pm
My kids miss the cut-off for kindergarten for next
year, but they will be in their 2nd year of Pre-K at
Childrens Day School. I opted to have them in the same
Pre-k class this year, even though there are 3 classes.
I will likely do the same next year, though I have met
with their teacher already to discuss a possible split.
BUT, I felt strongly that I would want them apart for
Kindergarten onwards and that was a driving force in
choosing a school with 2 classes per grade. I already
see how important it is for each to tell me about their
day through their own lens without being corrected or
edited by the other. Both my kids are gregarious and
somewhat dominant, but even so I see how easy it is
for one to overshadow the other about school stuff.
Gedaliadad to Ari and EllaSent from my iPadOn Mar 25,
2013, at 2:29 PM, Karen O'Neill wrote: Karen O'Neill
commented: To those who have been through the process,
how much emphasis did you place on having at least 2
classes per grade, so that the twins could be in
separate classrooms? I know that many (most?) of the
private schools in SF are only 1 class per grade... It
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