[House] San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion forum digest - 7/18/2013

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San Francisco Parents of Multiples SFPOM General Discussion 7/17/2013
9:14 am - 7/18/2013

1. Comment: Good ole fashion sleep training question (sept18_sf)
2. Comment: Good ole fashion sleep training question (colevalleymom)
3. Comment: Vaginal delivery anyone? (juliel08)
4. Comment: Vaginal delivery anyone? (abbypease)
5. Comment: Vaginal delivery anyone? (MamaWobin)
6. Comment: Vaginal delivery anyone? (kulida)
7. Comment: Housework (twinpeakstwins)
Topic: Good ole fashion sleep training question

 Ok, looking for some wisdom from you experienced mamas out
 there. We're just about...

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 1. sept18_sf says...
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 7/17/2013 1:10 pm
 
 We just let our babies cry it out when they woke up in
 the middle of the night - this was around 4.5-5 months
 old. At this point they were going to sleep around 7pm
 and only waking up once around 2 or 3am to eat then
 they'd sleep again until around 6:30am. I literally
 put earplugs in so I couldn't hear them cry. (Mine
 were only born at 34 weeks and my son was very small -
 only 2lbs 6oz at birth.)I am not sure if your babies
 are too old to let them just cry it out through the
 night, but if I were you I'd try that, but if you don't
 want to try that perhaps calling a doula to help would
 make things easier on you. At this point I think they
 can sleep through the night if you want them too.
 Email author: leslieellen at gmail.com
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 2. colevalleymom says...
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 7/18/2013 12:01 am
 
 We are going through the same thing. Our 6 mo boys
 typically go down at 6:30 and were waking once around
 2-3 am for a feed and then back to bed until abt 6:30. 
 But they both started waking up multiple times per
 night (paci falling out, one waking the other) and I
 started bringing them to bed to try to keep them quiet.
 Ugh. It's a slippery slope. So we decided that it
 was time for CIO. Strangely enough, the night we
 decided to implement it, the wakings decreased on their
 own...perhaps they sensed we were serious! But, to
 answer your question, except for the 2:00 am feed, if
 they wake, we just let them cry. I have read in many
 places that the twin will learn to tune out the other
 and that although they may wake in response to the
 other for the first night or two, it is better to CIO
 with them in the same room so that they both adjust. 
 Good luck!!
 Email author: mbrown at stanfordmed.org
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Topic: Vaginal delivery anyone?

 I was lucky to deliver my twins vaginally. The labor and
 delivery was very quick,...

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 3. juliel08 says...
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 7/17/2013 2:41 am
 
 I delivered vaginally at 36 weeks. Baby B was also
 breech. I was told by all of nurses told that not many
 OBs will do it and this was a rare delivery (at least
 at CPMC). You really need an old school OB as they
 don't teach it anymore in med school. (Dr. Lam at
 GGOBGYN is the man, and a few of his partners will also
 do it, and you really have to fight for it). I think
 it's either super easy to get a breech B out or can
 take 1 - 2 hours. Some try to flip the baby, but Dr.
 Lam (and colleagues) like to quickly grab the legs and
 pull. I was super luck and baby B came out 2 minutes
 after A. (they were both 5 lbs, so that helped). It was
 pretty awesome. For those of you who are pregnant, and
 want to go for vag and your OB says "no", I'd look
 around for another. (I know a lot of twin moms who were
 told vaginal with baby B breech is not an option - this
 just isn't true).
 Email author: julielegrand08 at gmail.com
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 4. abbypease says...
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 7/17/2013 10:25 am
 
 You should know there's about a 5% chance that you can
 have both, like I did. Delivered early at 34 weeks and
 6 days, A was an easy vaginal delivery, but B (also
 head down) wouldn't come down and I had to have a
 section for her.Not to discourage you, but just be
 aware of the possibility!
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 5. MamaWobin says...
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 7/17/2013 5:16 pm
 
 I was induced at 38 weeks after Baby B stopped growing.
 The docs wanted to perform a C-section at 36 weeks but
 she was still healthy (heart, movement etc.) so I
 wanted to wait as long as I could. Once they finally
 talked me into inducing I was "in labor" for 48 hours,
 6 hours of real pushing. I did the epidural and several
 other drugs - I basically took anything they offered.
 Of course this may all have prolonged the whole process
 but it also made it tolerable so I don't regret it!
 Baby A was 7.5 lbs (most of it his head I swear) and
 Baby B was 4.5 lbs and a breech extraction. They pulled
 her out by one leg 3 minutes after her brother. Both
 were totally healthy. No NICU, no hip issues. She was
 feisty and HUNGRY. At 1.5 years I think she still holds
 a grudge against her big brother and doesn't like to
 share anything with him, especially food!
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 6. kulida says...
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 7/17/2013 10:03 pm
 
 Wow! Thanks for your stories! I wouldn't believe there
 is an option for vaginal delivery with one baby in
 breech position.I delivered at Kaiser. Both my babies
 were head down, so they let me deliver vaginally,
 otherwise they would strongly recommend C-section. I
 was told that I would have to have epidural and deliver
 in operating room, just in case something went wrong.
 At the end there was not enough time to give me
 epidural. I asked for it, but before everything was
 ready baby A started to push herself out, so the
 doctors decided go without epidural and I was happy for
 it after all.Babies were 35 weeks and 5 days old and
 were 5 lb 3 oz and 4 lb 12 oz. They didn't have to go
 to NICU.Personally, if one of my babies would be breech
 I probably wouldn't have enough courage to go for
 vaginal delivery. I guess I would be too scared that
 something would go wrong.
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Topic: Housework

 Is anyone having issues with their partner about division of
 houusehold labour?
 
 I'm...

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 7. twinpeakstwins says...
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 7/17/2013 6:31 am
 
 Just found this information on a book by Dr. Joshua
 Coleman. He spoke to our group a couple of years ago.
 There is a nice short YouTube video too. The Lazy
 Husband: Reviews | Dr. Joshua
 Colemanwww.drjoshuacoleman.com/.../lazy-husb...READ
 EXCERPT VISIT "The Lazy Husband" is the most useful
 book on family life I have everread, full of practical
 examples on how to change things for the better.It
 should be a part of every course on marriage and the
 family."Barbara Bergmann,Professor Emerita of
 EconomicsAmerican University and the University of
 Maryland"Joshua Coleman's The Lazy Husband is
 absolutely thebest book on the subject to come out in
 over a decade.Drawing on poignant and often humorous
 examples fromhis therapeutic practice, Coleman offers
 practicaladvice for women and men that can turn
 troubledmarriages into healthy partnerships. This is
 the bestHOW-TO book on the market for parents who want
 to solvethe problems that plague modern
 marriages."Scott Coltrane, Ph.D.Dean at the University
 of Arts and SciencesUniversity of OregonAuthor, Family
 Man: Fatherhood, Housework, and Gender Equity"Before
 becoming parents, many simply do not appreciate how
 importantthe division of household labor is to couple
 and family well being.Enabling parents to successfully
 navigate this challenging terrain iswhat Joshua
 Coleman's insightful Lazy Husbands is all about.
 Ienthusiastically recommend the book to all who want to
 improve theirfamily lives. "Professor Jay
 Belsky,Director, Institute for the Study of
 Children,Families and Social Issues, Birkbeck
 University of LondonAuthor of "The Transition to
 Parenthood: How a First Child Changes a
 Marriage.""Coleman, the father of three and a
 practicing psychotherapist, offerscoherent but humane
 advice for fed-up femmes feeling less fatale andmore
 like indentured household drudges, depressed,
 overwhelmed, andmartyred. Coleman sensibly presents his
 suggestions in clear,unemotional terms that the reader
 can use verbatim. Among topicsaddressed: fairness, how
 to spot deliberate male incompetence, andwhether the
 fact that you make more money liberates you from
 diaperduty. Coleman also does not shy away from those
 ugly marital truths thatthe phrase "happily ever after"
 never mentions: power, money, controland the fact that
 raising those blessed events — kids — can numb
 yourmind on occasion. Coleman is particularly good at
 addressing theproblems of living with an angry spouse
 and how people's childhoods caninfluence their
 parenting."USA Today"…we highly recommend The Lazy
 Husband. This is not a male-bashing book.It reads more
 like a crash course in marriage….His book is a fast
 read, full of thekind of "ah-ah! moments readers will
 appreciate and remember."The Oakland Tribune- See more
 at:
 
 http://www.drjoshuacoleman.com/books/lazy-husband/lazy-husband-reviews/#sthash.qvx3J7KS.dpuf
 Email author: twinpeakstwins at yahoo.com
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